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探寻英语听力词汇2000后瓶颈期办法


    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">本文<span style="color: black;">转载</span>2020年5月份<span style="color: black;">发布</span>在小花生的原创<span style="color: black;">文案</span>,当时英语启蒙</span><span style="color: black;">8</span><span style="color: black;">个月。</span><span style="color: black;">一路走来,<span style="color: black;">咱们</span>的原则是,不在舒适区徘徊,<span style="color: black;">持续</span>引导他进入学习区。</span><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">按照</span>儿子的反馈,<span style="color: black;">即时</span><span style="color: black;">调节</span>路线,遵循正确引导、<span style="color: black;">恰当</span>规划、兴趣优先的原则。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 以下为正文,全文共3488字。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">导语:自上个月分享了我家4岁娃半年听力词汇<span style="color: black;">累积</span>2000词后,得到不少花友点赞。其实<span style="color: black;">咱们</span>十八线小城市普娃,远<span style="color: black;">不可</span>跟北上广深牛娃相提并论。<span style="color: black;">然则</span>我给他做好规划,<span style="color: black;">根据</span>自己的路线来,找准理论<span style="color: black;">办法</span>,大方向不变,再结合自己娃<span style="color: black;">实质</span><span style="color: black;">状况</span>,按部就班一步一个脚印。</span><span style="color: black;">要仰望星空,更要脚踏实地。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">听力一旦到了2000词,不少基本表达能听懂,<span style="color: black;">亦</span>爱<span style="color: black;">白话</span>输出,<span style="color: black;">例如</span>我要去<span style="color: black;">熬炼</span>,娃就会来一句do you like to keep fit?(你要去<span style="color: black;">熬炼</span>了吗?)<span style="color: black;">或</span>自己玩的时候,会自言自语<span style="color: black;">有些</span>英文像Mummy, I just make a diamond(妈妈,我<span style="color: black;">刚才</span>只是在搭一个钻石)。但<span style="color: black;">好似</span><span style="color: black;">亦</span>是这个时候,词汇量再往上增长,比较慢。效果远<span style="color: black;">无</span>前半年<span style="color: black;">累积</span>得<span style="color: black;">快速</span>,不少人卡在2000词<span style="color: black;">上下</span>,进阶难。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">于是我又<span style="color: black;">起始</span>半夜刷帖,围观牛娃,找路线,求<span style="color: black;">办法</span>。<span style="color: black;">最后</span>确定的路线是:科普Raz加入,不放弃动画片。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <span style="color: black;">初期</span>启蒙,是一路牛津树,拔高点是牛5和牛6,其实牛7到牛9,<span style="color: black;">增多</span>了句子的长度和国家风土人情部分,一本有30页,而真正生词并不太多。<span style="color: black;">针对</span>小娃<span style="color: black;">来讲</span>,缺乏的是认知,<span style="color: black;">例如</span>Vikings这类直接舍弃不读。</span><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">咱们</span>个性化地把牛7-9挑选着<span style="color: black;">有些</span>亲子读,<span style="color: black;">增多</span>了听动画片音频(<span style="color: black;">重点</span>是佩奇)这一项。</span><span style="color: black;">再接下来匹配科普,不放弃动画片。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;<span style="color: black;">按照</span>娃的水平,我大刀阔斧地选定级别,直接从Raz H<span style="color: black;">起始</span>,购买科一科二(Lets read and find science),再利用中文科普(<span style="color: black;">例如</span>小灯塔学堂,书籍等)<span style="color: black;">弥补</span>认知(<span style="color: black;">已然</span>是很懒的<span style="color: black;">办法</span>了)。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">其实<span style="color: black;">亦</span>是摸着石头过河,忐忑得一边<span style="color: black;">可疑</span>一边执行。<span style="color: black;">可疑</span>的是,其一,包妈的刷Raz的实操:亲子读Raz <span style="color: black;">每日</span>的kpi是3000词输入(Raz H应该15本),再15本循环1.5倍速听音频5遍,大概2小时。一礼拜刷完一个字母(平均80册),高强度高执行力。我执行力够强吗?&nbsp;其二,<span style="color: black;">这般</span>操作,一遍过解释完让他听懂,娃真的能记住吗?</span><span style="color: black;">当然<span style="color: black;">可疑</span>的不是她的<span style="color: black;">办法</span>,而是自己的执行力和娃的接受度。</span><span style="color: black;">想想自己家普娃,还是<span style="color: black;">减少</span>执行吧,结合兴趣继续听佩奇音频。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">因在过渡<span style="color: black;">周期</span>,故Raz H一天5-10本不等,亲子读2本科一或科二,再1.2倍速循环播放5本音频(科一科二音频很少听,因音效快盖住声音了,<span style="color: black;">况且</span><span style="color: black;">尤其</span>长,娃没耐心听下去;raz之<span style="color: black;">因此</span>1.2倍速<span style="color: black;">亦</span>是<span style="color: black;">由于</span>原音频太慢)。以上,畏难心理不是娃,而是我。科一还好,科二查词典查到吐,等娃还没醒抓紧时间备课。Raz H<span style="color: black;">起始</span>,9.9元买了abc reading app月卡,为的是上面有中文版翻译(<span style="color: black;">重视</span>app的中文版翻译只到字母K) 想着<span style="color: black;">一月</span>内赶紧把自己囤的纸质Raz H级I级J级翻译查好。Raz就这么亲子读着,fiction(虚构类,即故事类)的像四小怪物的一遍过(反而娃特<span style="color: black;">爱好</span>老爱单曲循环),nonfiction(非虚构类)的两到三遍过。<span style="color: black;">尤其</span>害怕的几本扔一边。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">办法</span>是随着娃的接受程度<span style="color: black;">持续</span><span style="color: black;">调节</span>的。得知娃对raz并不排斥,反而<span style="color: black;">亦</span><span style="color: black;">爱好</span>,可能跟我讲的<span style="color: black;">办法</span><span style="color: black;">亦</span><span style="color: black;">相关</span>,<span style="color: black;">尽可能</span>搞笑,参考以下2020年5月24日亲子读Raz K音频,发挥戏精精神。我<span style="color: black;">起始</span>把娃平均<span style="color: black;">每日</span>Raz的5本,偷偷<span style="color: black;">增多</span>1-2本fiction给他裸听掉。他一个人玩的时候,音频像背景音<span style="color: black;">同样</span>开着,有时候真<span style="color: black;">可疑</span>他<span style="color: black;">是不是</span>在听,<span style="color: black;">然则</span>他会<span style="color: black;">忽然</span>跑到我身边跟我说:妈妈把这集单独循环 (我那个开心呀,人家不仅听了,还听懂了)&nbsp; 。直到<span style="color: black;">近期</span>,Raz J里有一本My uncle is a firefighter,<span style="color: black;">亦</span>是我之前偷偷加进裸听的。亲子阅读之前,他跟我说“妈妈这本我听过了,这个小<span style="color: black;">伴侣</span>叔叔在消防站睡好把被子铺好给下一个消防员睡”&nbsp;&nbsp;我一看,还真是。虽然fresh<span style="color: black;">无</span>翻译出来,但基本意思一致。大大的<span style="color: black;">褒扬</span>了他,这次不是彩虹屁,真心的。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><img src="https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/KoCtNpFIsx8oib5rEXXibiaaLS70tzxVXtXwN95jtSrZzHelB9eib9aMX556Umk4N7Z8dnJuRu2NoAVEUN8icLZDZkQ/640?wx_fmt=png&amp;tp=webp&amp;wxfrom=5&amp;wx_lazy=1&amp;wx_co=1" style="width: 50%; margin-bottom: 20px;"></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">(Raz J级别 My uncle is&nbsp;a&nbsp;firefighter)</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">有人说,Raz太枯燥了,怎么读,不是讲蜘蛛<span style="color: black;">便是</span>说蛇,要么就南极北极,板球足球。Raz确实不及牛津树有趣,但兴趣是<span style="color: black;">能够</span>培养的,重要看家长<span style="color: black;">怎样</span>引导。<span style="color: black;">倘若</span>英语水平要往上再拔高,必须拉动认知。Raz体系庞大,26个字母(加aa级),从aa 到z,每本80册,一共2000多册,是一部非常强大的分级读物,适合升阶。既然这么经典,就需要老母亲动脑筋吸引<span style="color: black;">孩儿</span><span style="color: black;">重视</span>力了,<span style="color: black;">例如</span>接下来这篇K级。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><img src="https://mmbiz.qpic.cn/mmbiz_png/KoCtNpFIsx8oib5rEXXibiaaLS70tzxVXtXU0icGiaKKBuWhq0UukxrdARGPprdJGSnibvRWT2z8OiciazR3FwHExRc5iaw/640?wx_fmt=png&amp;tp=webp&amp;wxfrom=5&amp;wx_lazy=1&amp;wx_co=1" style="width: 50%; margin-bottom: 20px;"></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 这本书是<span style="color: black;">相关</span>Spider Trapdoor(活板门蛛),原文见上图。</span><span style="color: black;">中文大体意思是,这些狡猾的蜘蛛在地下通道挖了个洞,用蛛丝扒在门上,<span style="color: black;">而后</span>用土堆盖上。</span><span style="color: black;">当猎物经过时,<span style="color: black;">她们</span>打开门,猎物就掉进去。</span><span style="color: black;">此</span><span style="color: black;">时,<span style="color: black;">咱们</span>假装自己是活板门蛛妈妈和儿子,等待着猎物进入。</span><span style="color: black;">我引导<span style="color: black;">孩儿</span>发挥想象,鼓励其用英文表达。</span><span style="color: black;">儿子说,猎物<span style="color: black;">最终</span>掉进去啦,我是一个厨师,妈妈你涂点辣椒酱,<span style="color: black;">西红柿</span>酱,再喊上爷爷奶奶,和绍兴的哥哥,<span style="color: black;">大众</span><span style="color: black;">一块</span>来吃美味的猎物啦。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">总之,让<span style="color: black;">孩儿</span>想到他身边的事物,<span style="color: black;">例如</span>吃的喝的玩的,把遥远虚拟的转化为切身体会的,<span style="color: black;">这般</span>印象深刻,再用音频听力巩固原文,达到事半功倍的的效果。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">经过</span>Raz扩展认知的<span style="color: black;">同期</span>,结合自己娃特点,动画片(音频和视频)<span style="color: black;">不可</span>停。<span style="color: black;">做为</span>佩奇死忠粉的儿子,我是欣慰又无奈,欣慰的是<span style="color: black;">经过</span>佩奇6季(300集)因兴趣<span style="color: black;">兴趣</span>驱使窄听,快速<span style="color: black;">累积</span>了听力词汇且不少地道的输出表达。无奈的是,只爱佩奇,抗拒其他动画片,<span style="color: black;">况且</span>非常难推(娃害怕其他动画片,<span style="color: black;">包含</span>中文动画片)。我给他试了number blocks<span style="color: black;">剧烈</span>反抗停了,试了道奇,只看一集。有次无意在百度网盘搜到woodpecker一集10分钟,加在每日raz音频里。给他裸听掉,我说:“咦这不是佩奇里兔子小姐的声音<span style="color: black;">吗</span>?<span style="color: black;">而后</span>他急切得想看那一集动画片(想把自己已知的和<span style="color: black;">照片</span>对应),看第二遍的时候,我看难而快的词汇,会给他翻译一下。<span style="color: black;">而后</span>我赶紧把动画片找出来,是小猪佩奇原班人马配音的ben and holly’s &nbsp;littlekingdom,欣喜万分。儿子<span style="color: black;">最终</span>肯接受<span style="color: black;">另一</span>一部动画片,<span style="color: black;">况且</span>基本上裸听一遍再看的,经常的反应是:妈妈flat是房间的意思; 妈妈把这一集单独循环; 要么就自己笑得咯咯的,说妈妈他怎么吃胡萝卜呀!我<span style="color: black;">最终</span>推出了另一部动画片,太喜出望外!</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">疫情<span style="color: black;">时期</span>加起来寒假过了3个半月,儿子的英语水平<span style="color: black;">亦</span>是肉眼可见的<span style="color: black;">加强</span>。<span style="color: black;">而后</span>这不是最重要的,<span style="color: black;">由于</span>语言学习是一个漫长的过程,听读分离,<span style="color: black;">咱们</span>还在“听”的初步<span style="color: black;">周期</span>,“读”又是一个坎,再到后期的学术,<span style="color: black;">根据</span>盖兆泉老师在《做最好的英语学习规划师》里说的,起码要十年。任何特长都是时间的堆积,一万小时理论。</span><span style="color: black;">语文是长跑,而</span><span style="color: black;">英语是抢跑,学前启蒙(3周岁最佳),是一门投资<span style="color: black;">报答</span>率最高的科目。</span><span style="color: black;">还有个好处是,中文识字不会读的用英文解释秒懂</span><span style="color: black;">。</span><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">咱们</span><span style="color: black;">亦</span>确实<span style="color: black;">由于</span>英语启蒙半年<span style="color: black;">败兴</span></span><span style="color: black;">的<span style="color: black;">保持</span>,儿子的自<span style="color: black;">自信心</span>爆棚。</span><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">例如</span>跟小伙伴玩,人说你<span style="color: black;">晓得</span>脏水怎么说吗?</span><span style="color: black;">儿子自信地说,dirty water呀!</span><span style="color: black;">还特嘚瑟地加一句,Do you like dirty water?得到</span><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">朋友</span>妈妈夸赞。跟</span><span style="color: black;">我去单位,与同事<span style="color: black;">孩儿</span><span style="color: black;">一块</span>玩,他看到剪纸青蛙,会<span style="color: black;">忽然</span>诗兴大发,自编一首打油诗,The frog pond has a quiet water.Kuakua Here is a frog,there is a frog.Kuakuakua,lots of frog,not just one frog。</span><span style="color: black;">读Raz的时候,我自己<span style="color: black;">已然</span>忘记了<span style="color: black;">例如</span><span style="color: black;">有些</span>生僻的动物词汇,什么puffin(海鹦) cheetah(非洲猎豹)啊,他反复听过就记得很清楚。</span><span style="color: black;">digestive system是消化系统,carbon dioxide是二氧化碳。</span><span style="color: black;">我偶尔为了侧面考验他(<span style="color: black;">不可</span>直接考他)会装作不<span style="color: black;">晓得</span>要去查字典,他说妈妈你<span style="color: black;">不消</span>查了,我<span style="color: black;">晓得</span>呀。我说,原来你<span style="color: black;">便是</span>我的词典呀,下次我按一下你就行啦。</span><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">日前</span>已形成一种良性循环,成就感带来的自信,这是我更加看中的。</span><span style="color: black;">毕竟英语学习只是人生中一个很小的方面,<span style="color: black;">然则</span><span style="color: black;">经过</span>这个载体,<span style="color: black;">咱们</span>能达到<span style="color: black;">提高</span>自信的目的,这就很可贵。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">最后提一下外教课,<span style="color: black;">咱们</span><span style="color: black;">无</span>正式上过 ,但前期薅过试听课羊毛,<span style="color: black;">便是</span>迫不及待拿出来溜溜的<span style="color: black;">心理</span>,<span style="color: black;">瞧瞧</span>自己在家鸡的英语水平有<span style="color: black;">无</span>问题。后来并没觉得外教课比亲子读<span style="color: black;">或</span>听更<span style="color: black;">有效</span>,于是果断停下,继续默默<span style="color: black;">累积</span>听力。<span style="color: black;">相关</span>外教课,参考包妈一段视频,说得很好,说<span style="color: black;">非常多</span>家长搞不清学上外教课的目的。问,你上外教课干<span style="color: black;">吗</span>?答:<span style="color: black;">熬炼</span><span style="color: black;">白话</span>。再问:<span style="color: black;">熬炼</span><span style="color: black;">白话</span>干<span style="color: black;">吗</span>?答:能出国与外国人沟通。<span style="color: black;">这般</span>其实形<span style="color: black;">成为了</span>无限死循环。语言是认知的载体,<span style="color: black;">倘若</span><span style="color: black;">孩儿</span>的认知<span style="color: black;">不足</span>的话,即使一流外教,<span style="color: black;">亦</span><span style="color: black;">没法</span>跟娃聊更加深入的<span style="color: black;">专题</span>。&nbsp;盖兆泉老师<span style="color: black;">亦</span><span style="color: black;">说到</span>听力<span style="color: black;">累积</span><span style="color: black;">最少</span>1000词再上外教课,<span style="color: black;">这般</span>不至于几节课下来<span style="color: black;">始终</span>在问娃How are you. 当然<span style="color: black;">咱们</span>预计外教课计划安排在后期,<span style="color: black;">白话</span>和认知水平更高的时候free talk.</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;接下来的计划,</span><span style="color: black;">依然是<span style="color: black;">经过</span>raz爬坡,<span style="color: black;">提高</span>认知,听动画片音频,看动画片,将听力水平<span style="color: black;">有效</span><span style="color: black;">加强</span>,<span style="color: black;">不可</span><span style="color: black;">仅在</span>舒适区徘徊,要随时进入学习区。</span><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">做为</span>一个哑巴英语学过来的人(外语法),每次想着记单词,巩固<span style="color: black;">基本</span>,<span style="color: black;">而后</span>低阶别徘徊。</span><span style="color: black;">这个观念<span style="color: black;">必定</span>要打破。</span><span style="color: black;">娃们是习得,用的是母语法,H级别过不了的,怕他不熟的,放一边,J级会有更高阶的表达(分级绘本的特点),<span style="color: black;">咱们</span>记不住的不<span style="color: black;">表率</span>娃不懂。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;最后,<span style="color: black;">根据</span>2019年9月制定的计划,启蒙一年半<span style="color: black;">上下</span>,至2021年1月寒假<span style="color: black;">时期</span>进入扫盲<span style="color: black;">周期</span>,自鸡自然拼读,把听力词汇转换成阅读词汇,迈入新台阶。</span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;后记</span></span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">5月份写的文,记录儿子英语启蒙的过程,7月份回过头来看,虽然当时<span style="color: black;">调节</span>策略,挑战很大,<span style="color: black;">亦</span>很忐忑,但幸好都坚定按计划执行下去了,10个半月超前完成听力词汇<span style="color: black;">累积</span>3000词学自然拼读的<span style="color: black;">目的</span>。7月份已进入自然拼读的学习,<span style="color: black;">发展</span>顺利。娃的听力继续,<span style="color: black;">日前</span><span style="color: black;">已然</span>不需要我催促了,完全爱上了听音频,上厕所还得挂门把手上。今晚跟爸爸踢足球,<span style="color: black;">亦</span><span style="color: black;">需求</span>带播放器听ben and holly,更哭笑不得的是,为了睡前能多听会音频,跟爸爸吵架,简直是进入着魔<span style="color: black;">周期</span>了。</span></span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">由于</span>英语启蒙,结识了<span style="color: black;">非常多</span>985的妈妈,<span style="color: black;">最终</span>领悟到家长才是<span style="color: black;">孩儿</span>的起跑线,<span style="color: black;">她们</span>在<span style="color: black;">轻轨</span>里回家的路上,在午休的间隙,给<span style="color: black;">孩儿</span>备课,<span style="color: black;">夜晚</span>回家再亲子阅读。<span style="color: black;">她们</span>对枯燥的英文科普进行拓展,知识面丰富。还有<span style="color: black;">有些</span>妈妈,带着两个<span style="color: black;">孩儿</span>启蒙的,最难能可贵的是,英语<span style="color: black;">欠好</span>的妈妈,<span style="color: black;">亦</span>能鸡出牛娃。这都深深鼓舞了我,<span style="color: black;">亦</span>是我<span style="color: black;">保持</span>下去的动力。</span></span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;<span style="color: black;">咱们</span>还在起步<span style="color: black;">周期</span>,略有心得,小有成就,初有收获。</span></span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;不忘初心,继续<span style="color: black;">奋斗</span>。</span></span></p>
    <p style="font-size: 16px; color: black; line-height: 40px; text-align: left; margin-bottom: 15px;"><span style="color: black;"><span style="color: black;">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;分享此文,给<span style="color: black;">孩儿</span>英语启蒙路上的你参考。</span></span></p>




星☆雨 发表于 2024-8-28 02:06:20

感谢你的精彩评论,为我的思绪打开了新的窗口。

很甜的橙橙橙子 发表于 2024-9-10 07:23:11

我赞同你的看法,你的智慧让人佩服,谢谢分享。

1fy07h 发表于 2024-10-2 13:15:03

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nykek5i 发表于 2024-10-4 22:35:51

在遇到你之前,我对人世间是否有真正的圣人是怀疑的。

m5k1umn 发表于 3 天前

你的见解真是独到,让我受益匪浅。
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